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*July 27, 2008, 2:41PM*
COMIC-CON
Red Sonja back on the big screen

By GEOFF BOUCHER
Los Angeles Times

SAN DIEGO — Rose McGowan says she can't wait to wear the chain-mail bikini of Red Sonja, the barbarian queen. Why? "The suffragettes would have loved her," she explained. "She would only be with a man if he had bested her with the sword first. That was a pretty feminist statement ... well, as far as comic books go back then."

McGowan said she had a "very depressing year" seeking a challenging, nuanced role in Hollywood when most movies present women "not even as straight man, they're the straight man to the straight man," she says.

When a script came her way reviving the Marvel Comics character, who first appeared in /Conan the Barbarian/, under writer Roy Thomas and artist Barry Windsor-Smith (drawing, of course, on the work of pulp icon Robert E. Howard), she was intrigued. She showed it to her boyfriend, filmmaker Robert Rodriguez, and asked if he had ever heard of the character.

And, of course, Rodriguez turned out to be a rabid fan of the Marvel Conan comics and Sonja as well. "I learned to draw by tracing the art in /Savage Sword of Conan/, John Buscema and all of that," he said. "They led back to the books by Howard, and I loved him, partly because he was the weird guy from Texas like me."

They told me all of this as they relaxed in a (relatively) quiet corner of Comic-Con after their panel on /Red Sonja/. The wide-eyed pair had just bumped into Stan Lee (McGowan: "Wow, he is a salesman") and seemed charmed and a bit overwhelmed by the whole day.

"I'm a novice, but I love it," McGowan said, talking about the Comic-Con song and dance, as Rodriguez nodded.

/Red Sonja/ hit the screen in 1985, with the towering Brigitte Nielsen from Denmark swinging the sword with a certain future California governor along for the fun. This new/ Red Sonja/ sounds as if it will have some of the hyper-reality of films such as /300 /and Rodriguez's own /Sin City/.

The movie won't hit theaters until 2010, but Rodriguez said they would be back next year with a full-on presentation.

The curvy McGowan said the costume will be a big hit. "It's, uh, very visually impactful. Sonja lived in a time when men, if they saw a woman with a sword, wouldn't think twice about killing her. She needs any edge or distraction she can get. The costume gives her that."

One last thing: Will the name Conan be mentioned in this film? "I can't tell you that," Rodriguez said. "The reason I can't tell you is I don't know yet."

There was some big-time wheeling and dealing at Comic-Con International that had absolutely nothing to do with film options or Hollywood agents: intense buying and selling in the booths where vintage original art from comic books and comic strips was on display in thick, oversize portfolios that were worth far more than their weight in gold.

Take dealer Joe Mannarino, whose booth had amazing original pieces by the brilliant Winsor McCay, Jack Kirby and Neal Adams. "The marketplace has never gone down, but we're seeing major interest right now," Mannarino said. "It's a very robust market."

One reason is that several generations of fans are of collecting age (that is, they have enough money to jump into a costly hobby), and the huge Hollywood afterlife of comic properties has attracted investors looking for a place to possibly double and triple their money in a few years.

Mannarino is right in the middle of it all with one of the most respected appraisal businesses in the scene. He has also worked as an agent for iconic artists such as Frank Frazetta, Mort Drucker, Joe Simon, Carmine Infantino and Jim Steranko.

Mannarino had just paid $115,000 for a full 22-page story drawn by Adams and inked by the brilliant Berni Wrightson. Yes, you read that number right.

"And someone has already offered me $140,000 for it," Mannarino said, clearly torn about whether to part company so quickly with such a rare find. "It's the only time Wrightson ever inked Adams, I believe," he said of the issue, /Green Lantern/ No. 84, circa 1971.


WolfeFPS
Although I have a lot of faith in Robert Rodriguez, I seriously think Rose McGowan is going to suck as Red Sonja. Yeah, yeah... I know Michael Keaton pulled one out of everbody's ass when he took on Batman, and maybe Hugh Jackmas was a pleasant surprise as Wolverine... but Rose McGowan? I'm thinking Halle Berry as Catwoman on this one.
LauraHawkeye
Red Sonja is one of the movies I remember watching when I was a kid. The network played that thing several times a month. And in the memory of Brigitte Nielsen's fierceness I refrain from watching this abomination.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 28 2008, 06:51 PM) *
Red Sonja is one of the movies I remember watching when I was a kid. The network played that thing several times a month. And in the memory of Brigitte Nielsen's fierceness I refrain from watching this abomination.

For the record, she absolutely stunk ass as Red Sonja, too. tongue.gif
Raycheetah
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 28 2008, 06:53 PM) *
For the record, she absolutely stunk ass as Red Sonja, too. tongue.gif

Aside from being Flava Flav's squeeze, is there a role Brigitte Nielsen ever had that she didn't stink on ice in?

=@[.]@=
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(Raycheetah @ Jul 28 2008, 07:25 PM) *
Aside from being Flava Flav's squeeze, is there a role Brigitte Nielsen ever had that she didn't stink on ice in?

=@[.]@=

I believe, sir, that you have stumped the defense and closed the case.

laugh.gif
MikeTheC
Mmmm... boobies!
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 01:53 AM) *
For the record, she absolutely stunk ass as Red Sonja, too. tongue.gif


It was a cheesy movie from the 80s, also starring Arnie, if she would have acted decent it would have been completely out of tune with the rest of the movie. Besides how serious can you act dressed up like that?
RaiderDave2112
Well I see hollywood has gone from scraping the bottom of the barrel to digging underneath it now. Next thing you know they are going to remake Heaven's Gate.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 04:24 AM) *
It was a cheesy movie from the 80s, also starring Arnie, if she would have acted decent it would have been completely out of tune with the rest of the movie. Besides how serious can you act dressed up like that?

I don't know... if Jane Fonda can manage it in Barbarella, why couldn't Nielsen have?

And they totally fucked up by not having Arnie be Conan, but don't get me started on that.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(RaiderDave2112 @ Jul 29 2008, 06:43 AM) *
Well I see hollywood has gone from scraping the bottom of the barrel to digging underneath it now. Next thing you know they are going to remake Heaven's Gate.

Blaspheme. Red Sonja is deserving of having a good movie made.
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 07:53 PM) *
Blaspheme. Red Sonja is deserving of having a good movie made.


I think action heroes are forever doomed to have piss poor movies made on them. Besides the old Superman movies and Cristian Bale's Batman I can't think of a decent movie about superheroes.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 12:57 PM) *
I think action heroes are forever doomed to have piss poor movies made on them. Besides the old Superman movies and Cristian Bale's Batman I can't think of a decent movie about superheroes.

Um, the first two Spider-Man movies. The first two X-Men movies. The first two Blade movies (well... there's an interesting pattern). The Hellboy films. The first Michael Keaton Batman. The Incredibles. Iron Man. Spawn.

Need I go on?
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 08:06 PM) *
Um, the first two Spider-Man movies. The first two X-Men movies. The first two Blade movies (well... there's an interesting pattern). The Hellboy films. The first Michael Keaton Batman. The Incredibles. Iron Man. Spawn.

Need I go on?


I refuse to think of the Spide-man movies, or Spawn for that matter as even close to decent. But I hate blockbusters.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 01:11 PM) *
I refuse to think of the Spide-man movies, or Spawn for that matter as even close to decent. But I hate blockbusters.

Um, how can you hate blockbusters? With a few exceptions, most film producers have no idea if their movies are going to be blockbusters. That's a bit unfair.
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 08:14 PM) *
Um, how can you hate blockbusters? With a few exceptions, most film producers have no idea if their movies are going to be blockbusters. That's a bit unfair.


I meant the blockbuster type of movie, which often involves style over substance. I'm more for European movies.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 01:16 PM) *
I meant the blockbuster type of movie, which often involves style over substance. I'm more for European movies.

Are you suggesting that no European movies involve style over substance? I can name hundreds.
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 08:23 PM) *
Are you suggesting that no European movies involve style over substance? I can name hundreds.


Of course they do, but most I've seen don't, that's all.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 01:27 PM) *
Of course they do, but most I've seen don't, that's all.

Eh... I'm thinking the European ratio of art:entertainment films is pretty close to the American ratio of art:entertainment films. And don't get me started on the French film industry. Those hypocrites. laugh.gif
MikeTheC
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Blaspheme. Red Sonja is deserving of having a good movie made.

Red Sonja needs to be played by someone who, first and foremost, can act. Period.

Ideally, this person should be buff, and should have received training in weapons-handling, close-quarters combat, and martial arts. It also wouldn't hurt if she didn't stink like a horse on the set.
Raycheetah
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 01:14 PM) *
Um, how can you hate blockbusters? With a few exceptions, most film producers have no idea if their movies are going to be blockbusters. That's a bit unfair.

I'm sure that's exactly what Chris Carter is thinking, these days.

=^[.]^=
MikeTheC
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 01:29 PM) *
And don't get me started on the French film industry. Those hypocrites. laugh.gif

No, sir, that area of discussion is reserved for a rare few others to dabble in, and only their kind to read. I won't mention any names, of course... heh, heh heh...
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(MikeTheC @ Jul 29 2008, 01:30 PM) *
Red Sonja needs to be played by someone who, first and foremost, can act. Period.

Ideally, this person should be buff, and should have received training in weapons-handling, close-quarters combat, and martial arts. It also wouldn't hurt if she didn't stink like a horse on the set.

I agree, though I'm not sure being too buff would be a prerequisite. In shape, sure. Red Sonja of the comics was never drawn all that muscular. Maybe someone with a swimmer's body?
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 08:29 PM) *
And don't get me started on the French film industry. Those hypocrites. laugh.gif


But at least they go all the way about nudity, and don't just tease the audience. laugh.gif
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(Raycheetah @ Jul 29 2008, 01:30 PM) *
I'm sure that's exactly what Chris Carter is thinking, these days.

=^[.]^=

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Because one laugh smiley just didn't cut it.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 01:33 PM) *
But at least they go all the way about nudity, and don't just tease the audience. laugh.gif

And American films don't? My dear, I need to school you. wink.gif
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 08:35 PM) *
And American films don't? My dear, I need to school you. wink.gif


I think there's much more nudity, mostly nonsexual in European movies, specifically French ones. But now you made me curious on American nudity wink.gif
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 03:58 PM) *
I think there's much more nudity, mostly nonsexual in European movies, specifically French ones. But now you made me curious on American nudity wink.gif

Plenty, and I do mean PLENTY, of American art house films that are replete with nudity... gratuitous and otherwise. Do you get the Sundance Channel or the IFC channel, by any chance?
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 11:00 PM) *
Plenty, and I do mean PLENTY, of American art house films that are replete with nudity... gratuitous and otherwise. Do you get the Sundance Channel or the IFC channel, by any chance?


Nope, wish I did. They always have the Sundance festival movies on HBO, but that's about it. Now that you mentioned the the Sundace Channel it reminded me of Isabella Rossellini's Green Porno laugh.gif
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 04:13 PM) *
Nope, wish I did. They always have the Sundance festival movies on HBO, but that's about it. Now that you mentioned the the Sundace Channel it reminded me of Isabella Rossellini's Green Porno laugh.gif

She does a lot of nudity. I like that. laugh.gif
LauraHawkeye
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 11:33 PM) *
She does a lot of nudity. I like that. laugh.gif


And she ain't bad looking either.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(LauraHawkeye @ Jul 29 2008, 04:44 PM) *
And she ain't bad looking either.

Well, she's no Helen Mirren... when she was young and did nudity frequently... yowza.
RaiderDave2112
Red Sonja was a crap movie and seriously dosen't need to be remade.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(RaiderDave2112 @ Jul 29 2008, 05:14 PM) *
Red Sonja was a crap movie and seriously dosen't need to be remade.

I disagree. Crap movies are the movies that do need to be remade. Leave the good movies alone.
Raycheetah
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 05:35 PM) *
I disagree. Crap movies are the movies that do need to be remade. Leave the good movies alone.

Like The Day the Earth Stood Still?

"Gort, Klaatu barada nikto, dude!"

='[.]'=
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(Raycheetah @ Jul 30 2008, 01:17 AM) *
Like The Day the Earth Stood Still?

"Gort, Klaatu barada nikto, dude!"

='[.]'=

Er... that one does seem a bit odd, doesn't it?
RaiderDave2112
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 10:35 PM) *
I disagree. Crap movies are the movies that do need to be remade. Leave the good movies alone.


So you think they should remake Heaven's Gate?
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(RaiderDave2112 @ Jul 30 2008, 11:29 AM) *
So you think they should remake Heaven's Gate?

Better that than Gone With the Wind.
MikeTheC
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 29 2008, 05:35 PM) *
QUOTE(RaiderDave2112 @ Jul 29 2008, 05:14 PM) *
Red Sonja was a crap movie and seriously dosen't need to be remade.

I disagree. Crap movies are the movies that do need to be remade. Leave the good movies alone.

Hmm... Agree with Dave, or agree with Wolfe? Dave, or Wolfe?

Dave... or Wolfe? Dave, because I don't disagree with him, or Wolfe, because he's not wrong?

Ah, decisions, decisions...

*does epic coin-flip*

*aw shit...*
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(MikeTheC @ Jul 30 2008, 09:09 PM) *
I disagree. Crap movies are the movies that do need to be remade. Leave the good movies alone.
Hmm... Agree with Dave, or agree with Wolfe? Dave, or Wolfe?

Dave... or Wolfe? Dave, because I don't disagree with him, or Wolfe, because he's not wrong?

Ah, decisions, decisions...

*does epic coin-flip*

*aw shit...*

Don't agree with Dave. He's not even an American. laugh.gif
RaiderDave2112
QUOTE(WolfeFPS @ Jul 31 2008, 02:40 AM) *
Don't agree with Dave. He's not even an American. laugh.gif


Well in that case I'm obviously correct then.
WolfeFPS
QUOTE(RaiderDave2112 @ Jul 31 2008, 03:16 AM) *
Well in that case I'm obviously correct then.

Typical British arrogance. laugh.gif
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