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Ok, folks, so it looks like The Stolen Planet is going to be a regeneration episode wherein we will get to meet the Eleventh Doctor.

While it is as yet unconfirmed and BBC.co.uk is quieter than a mouse in a church passed out on too much wine, rumors are that the front-runner for the role of the Eleventh may be Scottish actor Robert Carlyle.

Here's a fan-photo showing both Dave and Robert:



At the moment it's probably too early to really have any serious opinions, but as the next few days wear on and we get to see what happens in Season 4 Episode 13, Journey's End, I would imagine the discussion will become quite lively.

Heh. Looks like the new Who might mark a return to a (slightly) older model of Time Lord. After all, the first batch were Merlinesque old chaps, while the later ones seem to be younger, more studly versions, perhaps in order to (apparently successfully) capture a wider female audience.*

Wonder if this one's gonna be all wacky, or if he's gonna be boring and sober and cranky?

=^[.]^=

*Oughtta get Jason Carter of Babylon 5. He'd be a hoot!

Then again, maybe we have another year of Tennant.

That would be unprecedented, DM, given the circumstances.

The only way for Tennant to go on playing The Doctor, other than in the form of a Reunion-type multi-Doctor story would be to have them do another year and retroactively insert it into the present continuity. I like Tennant's portrayal sufficiently to accept the Beeb acting on such a premise, but somehow I rather doubt it.

Well David Tennent has done the Christmas Special, which is in the can.

Also Saturday's episode is 65 minuits long, 6.40pm to 7.45pm, then it will be the Christmas Special then 4 specials in 2009 then the 5th series will start in 2010.

On the bright side The new series of "New Tricks" starts on Monday 7^th July so got that to look forward to.

MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW
















It turns out that the doctors severed hand was very important to the regeneration sequence, as he used it to dump the excess energy after he healed himself, so it is still David Tennent as the Doctor, the hand later regenerates into a half human doctor and as Donna wtoched the hand, some of the energy got passed onto her and she became half time-lord,
Dalek Caan had seen the evil of the Daleks and helped bring about the Daleks demise, by having Donna get to the point where she becomes half timelord, and through Doctor 2 brings about the total end of the Dalek race.

Oh yes, Doctor and Rose ask Gwen if her family have lived in Cardiff long and she says that they have lived there since 1800's tying it in to "The Unquiet Dead" and it looks like Martha is joining Torchwood

Oh yes another spoiler


The Villians for the Chritmas special are the Cybermen, from the preview it looks like the new Cybermen and it also looks like it is set in the Victorian era.

An interesting, if somewhat disappointing, end to a rather interesting season.

I still can't "grok", if that's the right word, The Doctor's attitude, vis a vis Davros' attempt to actually eradicate all other life in the universe. If anything rates as important enough to be worth killing to protect and defend, logically that should have been it. Frankly, if that's not worth fighting for, then I really don't see how any other cause could be, either.

Seems like from the P.O.V. of the audience, The Doctor has just basically made his own job as "defender" irrelevant and redundant.

Of course, I could make some crack about how this is just a perfect example of how the liberal (perhaps socialist-liberal?) mindset views existence; however this is not the No Holds Barred area, so I shall endeavor to restrain myself.

Mike,

To me the Doctor has never been about just killing his enemies, throughtout the shows run terminal violence has always been a last resort.

Dave:

No, I get that. The problem is that we're talking about Davros here. He's already more than amply eligible for the death penalty almost no matter how you slice or dice it. And his present acts and intent -- the murder of every last form of life in multiple universes -- clearly is of a scope so grievous no sane or rational person would find any other suitable means but to kill him, and the Daleks.

Such a judgment can be entered into, easily, on merit alone and without even the slightest whit of emotion. Certainly the Doctor would have been well within his rights and authority -- hell, even the authority of common sense self-defense and protection of others -- to have carried out his immediate execution. Why this should be something the Doctor couldn't stomach I haven't the foggiest. I mean, it's not like we're talking about someone (Davros) who hasn't already racked up numerous instances of heinous crimes on his "record".

My point is that, if this wasn't a dire-enough situation for the Doctor to have acted, then just what the hell would be? Or, by way of comparison, could ever possibly be in the future?

I have all the respect in the world for Dave Tennant the actor, but my respect for The Doctor has just been diminished to an extent I don't think I can even express.


EDIT: The Doctor had a duty and an obligation to act. He effectively did not do so. Technically, that should make him guilty of some kind of galactic charge of culpable negligence.

Great. So, Davros wipes out all life, and, per Oklahoma jurisprudence, at least, the Doc only gets slapped with Man 2?

Oog.

=@[.]@=

LOL...

Actually, I put in the link really just for the benefit of the legal definition at the top of the document, not for the rest of it. But I think that proves the point I was trying to make. Thanks Ray, you're the best!

Yes but there is no death penalty in the UK, so Davros would most likely be sent to a secure psychiatric prison.

Quick news:

http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewne...style=feedstyle

Well, that's Brittan for you. Figures...

Way to go, Sarah Jane Adventures!!!

[adds SJA to list of things to download watch]

If you would be so good as to clarify your point.

And its Britain.

"You say 'Britain', and I say "Brittan". Oh... let's call the whole thing off." (With apologies to Gershwin.)

Suffice it to say that the U.S. and the U.K. don't have the same social or political values, mores or norms. Not that the two nations don't overlap at all (clearly they do), but obviously they're not the same, and never will be.

I believe the "no death penalty" stance is in keeping with these very same political and social norms in the U.K., values and norms with which, in this particular area, I don't agree. Just like I don't agree with being a "subject" as opposed to a citizen, or gun control, or probably a whole litany of other issues which, if we were to debate them at all, would be more properly handled somewhere within the "No Holds Barred" area.

However, at the end of the day, I feel the U.K., being a sovereign nation, has every right to have whatever laws, politics, and social norms they want.

Mike lets move the debate to Rank Structure.

Just a reminder of only the most epic fail ever.

*has been waiting to post this somewhere*




These are from my LJ mood theme. The former is "rejected" and the latter "sore"; I am now afraid to feel either, and even though I'm currently sore from rafting, I'm not quite that sore.

So I take it everyone is looking foward to the Christmas special with the Cybermen in Victorian England

More or less. More because it's more Who, less because it's the Cybermen again.