Is anybody watching this? I am loving the first two eps so far.

Opening credits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGfC3ksdP5I...feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjLne16FKmQ

Preview for ep 3 airing this comming Monday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrCziT4bEP0

I have watched the first episode, but will watch the second tonight. So far I think its a pretty awesome show. Hopefully the writing stays good.

Well what did you think? Did you like it too?

I liked it, I was so hoping it would be good, I am sick of seeing shows fail after just a few episodes that I was trying not to get too attached but so far its been very action packed and I like all the characters. I think Lena Headey is a good replacement for Linda Hamilton and of course I love Summer Glau in anything.

I'm hoping it continues as well as its started.

Oh yes I definately like it. Is it me or does the new Sarah sound like the old one.

Have they had an episode other then the 2 part pilot? I seen it was coming on last week and it was part 1 again.

They had one more episode besides the 2 parter, and another one tonight.

OK, its cold and raining, I think I'll watch it tonight.

Hmmm comes on Monday nights not Tuesdays...

That is correct Monday night.

I'm still enjoying it. I liked that John got to do something more than just whine this week. After all he is supposed to be the savior of the human race.

Were any of you thrown when Reeses brother showed up? I am loving this show!

WEEEE people to talk to about this!!!

Yes I was in total shock!! And pretty excited until he got shot!!!

I am so loving this show as well.

You guys are killing me. My dvr croaked and I just finished dl it. I will be watching it tonight.

I had heard a rumour that it may not be back, just a rumour but apparently its on the bubble. It hasn't been officially announced by Fox, but it is rather expensive to produce. I will be really pissed if t doesn't because I am really enjoying it so far and I'm getting really sick of shows not beeing given a chance to create an audience.

Crap sorry Rus!!! I was assuming that anyone who was peeking in here had seen the episode.

Oh dear gods!

That better just be folks fear mongering and not based on anything legitimate.

Brit I totally agree they need to wait to give a show a chance to catch on.

Maybe we should write in to tell them how much we are enjoying it BEFORE we have to write in asking them to bring it back!

LOL no problem, I knew I might get spoilers before I came in

That is the funniest emoticon ever! I love it!

I think I remember stealing that FOX thing from a blog somewhere.

T:SCC is getting 8 million geeks a week. A little bit better than Prison Break ust before it.

So, I would call it "on the bubble:" on FOX.

So...tonight's ep. What did y'all think?

I loved it! This is really moving right along, and not diappointing me.

I don't try to disect it, and bitch about the continuity issue.

I am thinking it is the only "new" show I am watching on television now.

KYLE REESE!!!
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system. The ep last night was good, although for me there were one too many flash-forwards, but the story needed them so no big. Plus, we got Kyle in some of them, and a much better understanding of the circumstances surrounding the time-travel that takes place throughout the Terminator series.

All-in-all I really like this show. John is starting to act like he has a brain in his head and isn't just your average angsty teenage boy. Sarah is kickass, as she should be and it looks like the character of Carmen will actually be getting some depth. It'll be nice for Summer to have a bit more to work with, besides just being a cute-but-freaky robot girl..

I have to wholeheartedly agree with you Ms. Jackson! I had such a crush on the original Kyle Reece. Still do to, lol. Michael Biehn <swoon> Such a hunka burnin' love....

<ahem> But I do like this series too. I hope that fux doesn't screw the pooch on this show as well.....Summer makes a great terminator!

I soo love this show.... I know I had originally had issues with the continuity but then thought it out and realized that when dealing with a story about time travel continuity will constantly change as the future keeps trying to change the past.

I do think Sara is handling Cameron wrong though and it could come back to bite her in the ass ... ton of foreshadowing in this ep about her going "bad" as she termed it. I am very excited about the addition of Kyle Resses's brother even if he is Brian Austen Green.

Yeah the character of John has been imo the week point of the show so far but slowly we are seeing more of the man who will lead the human resistance. It will be a welcome change.

Concidering where it had to start... I think it is moving right along.
I fear I missed an ep... it happens.
I've tried watching on the net. I'm havin issues... anybody else?

I love that Cameron is a little unknowable... how she was programed... what her actual purpose is remains a mystery. The fact that she pulled the module from last night's baddy... makes me wonder.
Could be stuff worth knowing about the enemy's movements... locations/timelines/etc.
The key to downloading same... without creatin' a ruckus... now... there's the rub.

Mmmm...yes, there is much hotness. And it doesn't hurt that the character totally rocks.


I completely agree! After last week you just know that things are going to go south for our trio unless Sarah gets her head out of her ass. Srsly.
Can't wait till next week!

My thoughts on this week's ep:


- It was a shock to see Andy in Derek's flashback, but I loved how it worked out with Andy's work and death. Good stuff.

- I love Cameron! She totally cracks me up. Though I think somebody ought to keep an eye on her, because if a reprogrammed Terminator can still go bad, you never know if the same'll happen to her.

- It's interesting that the future John Connor doesn't really have any friends, not even among the human survivors.

- I liked the fact that we got a peek at post-Judgment Day America in this ep.

- I seriously hope Charlie doesn't die anytime soon.

- Charlie's convo with Cameron was hilarious.

The question now is what the hell happened to the Turk... We saw Resse kill Good but not take the Turk...Did not see Reasse even look for it.

Summer Glau was the main reason I started watching SCC. But she is not the reason I stayed (although she IS, predictably, fantastic). There have been some continuity issues, but overall I feel like these writers have a far better idea of where SCC is going in the long run than the writers for Bionic Woman. And I loved the flash-forwards in the latest epi. The balance of CGI and set was believable ... but the worst line in the whole epi was about Kyle Reese when Derek is asking what happened at Topanga and the skinny black dude was like "No one ever saw him again."



Ummm ... ok. He was SEEN, just not by YOU. That bugged me.





Indeed.

I adore Michael Biehn. He is one truly underrated actor. I was wondering, too, who they'd get to portray Kyle in SCC, so when he arrived onscreen, I was surprised that I recognized the guy. I knew his speech patterns, his rhythm, his tone of voice.

Once upon a time, there was a great soap opera called General Hospital. (Unfortunately, its greatness has been much destroyed by an asshat head writer and an asshat central character, but I digress ...) On that soap was the iconic married couple Luke and Laura. They had a son named Lucky (whom the aforementioned asshat head writer apparently hates). The first (and best) actor to play him was Jonathan Jackson (who wisely left before the asshat head writer completely ruined the show) ... who has been seen most recently as Kyle Reese.

Let's compare.



Yep. Good casting.

I am fully prepared to be roasted alive by you folk that love 'em. May I suggest a ginger sauce?

I knew (when typing that) I was going to catch some guff for the "great soap opera" line ... but, really, GH - in its prime - WAS a great soap. It tackled an incredible organ donor s/l in the 80s and an HIV s/l in the early 90s. At that time (and for about five years after the HIV s/l), it was a socially aware soap that wasn't just hunky guys w/out shirts on and hottie chicks in tight, skimpy clothes - although there was that, too, and that didn't hurt, lol. The whole Luke and Laura s/l was revisited in the 90s as well regarding the way they originally got together - which was through rape. Their son - played by Jonathan Jackson - found out after his girlfriend was raped and that touched off another incredible s/l full of character development, social awareness - and strong, responsible writing. (And if I'm not badly mistaken, JJ won several daytime Emmys during that time.)

At that time, GH's head writers did, indeed follow character arcs (development & complexity), not just mindless plot points to move the story along. The show had teeth. Then we lost Gloria Monty. Then we lost Claire Labine. And now we have Bob Guza - who incorporates all of the bad things people think about soaps and so much more heinousness - and Jill Farren Phelps. I really have nothing good to say about either of those two b/c they have taken that show and reduced it to a misogynistic, violence glorifying, dumbed-down, moronic ratings grab (at best) which I can't stand to watch anymore regardless of the hotness of some of the guys. (I'm trying to restrain my rant about how truly truly truly bad they are.)

Anyway, my point in all of that was that Jonathan Jackson was one of those who learned and left (before GH turned into the mess it is now) and has done pretty well for himself, even if he hasn't made as big a splash as, say, Brad Pitt or Demi Moore. And, incidentally, Nathan Fillion (Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly) was on One Life to Live for several years before he, too, left.



Ah, I prefer deep frying to a roast. But bring on the ginger sauce!

Regarding soaps, they are not my cup of tea.

And that is what pisses me off when writers get on an artistic high horse when the make what could be "relavent" prgrams like BSG stoop to teh common soapy denominator of "relationship drama."

Daily soap writers churn out their product 5 days a week on a demanding production schedule.
And as observed above, sometimes it is really good storytelling despite it not being 'higher art."

To hear writers who put out a 13-26 episode order agonize about hte pace of doing that on a weekly schedule part time through the year, it just makes me chuckle.

Unfinushed business was pure soap. Sure, it "answered question" but it only answered soapy questions that never really needed to be asked, except for the prior soap scum in previous poorly considered episodes.

I am not opposed to eye candy and titilation, but if you want soaps, there is plenty on the dial to please you.

To have genere shows imitate poorly the daily soap attributes, but do it on a much more lazy schedule, I just have no love or respect for that.

Yeah I recognized him too a fan of GH in it's golden age ... I agree it was truly a great show and way above your ave soap... I do hope we get to see more of him on the show too.

As for Continuity errors not sure how having them in a show that in it's premises constantly screws around with time continuity works .. Well except for one that I am not sure how to resign myself to ...

How the hell this John Conner conceivably turns out to look like Nick Stahl is just beyond me.....

I do find it strange though in the flash forwards that we got not a hint about his wife and kids...

I'm not much on soaps..never really got into watchin' them even when I was a stay at home mom...

But thank you Ms. PS for the totally drool worthy pic of Michael Biehn <swoon, drool, pant> He's totally HOT!!! And a great actor to boot....underrated imho.

never ever understood why he did not become a mega star... He got the lead rolls in all the right mega blockbuster moves... had the looks and the talent and yet...Nothing. Most don't even know who he is even though they have seen him in some of holly woods biggest movies.

I had completely forgotten about them. Maybe if they do more flash-forwards in future eps they will be brought up? We can only hope something about them is mentioned...

I know, right? I went to IMDB and looked him up and there were lots of movies and tv shows he was in that I hadn't seen. I'll be going to the local video/dvd store this weekend to see if they have any of them.

I started watching The Doctors - way back when - until it went off the air. I got hooked on Another world back in 1977 - until it went off the air and I have been watching GH since just before Luke and Laura got married. They are the only three I've ever followed with any degree of interest. I have to agree with your take on GH. I can't believe what it's been turned into. It really was ahead of it's time with it's treatment of many issues.
I remember Demi Moore when she first came on GH - she could not act at all it was painful to watch. I especially remember her crazy long hair!!!! Even Elizabeth Taylor guest stared on GH lol.

I wasn't a big fan of the guy who played the first Lucky on GH.

TV series "Adventure Inc." "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324681/" was kind of fun to watch. Lots of Michael doing action stuff!

Loved Michael in Terminator had mad crush on him for a long time.

I did not recognise him AT ALL in The Abyss - one of my favourite movies too.

I was very nervous who they would pick to play his role - haven't been overly impressed. Brian Austen Green really stole the show and to me it was always Michael's character tha always had such huge screen presence.

I LOVE Charlie Dixon (Dean Winters) if anyone reminds me of Kyle Reese it's him. He has that same kind of softness to him and that same look in his eyes. I hope they bring him back more.

Cameron this last episode has me very concerned. Why did she keep the chip? Is she planning on switching her "reprogramed" chip for the other Terminators?

"sometimes they go bad"??????

So many questions...
Why did they let the guys go?
What was the music they heard?
Why would John trust "Cameron" in the future (giving her access to the time travel room) if she does something bad in the present?
Why would Reese be so freaked out by Cameron if she saved him from the other Terminator and then took him to see John?
Now that Good has been killed and he was the creator of the whole thing how will this change things for John?

Thanks ever so much Ms. Rowan! I'm all for watching him do action stuff, lol. Hopefully if my rental place doesn't have it then I can find it somewhere online

Me too still do! And yeah I wasn't happy with his character in the abyss but he did play the hell outta that part didn't he? I don't think he'd have done what he did if he wasn't reacting negetively to the pressure of the water at those depths, the hpns. And yeah I own the directors dvd of that movie and watch it about once a month.

I also had trepiditions about who would play his role...and if they could handle it as well. I still reserve judgement.

I have no idea what's happening with Cameron....but surely they won't have her turn into a "bad" terminator now that she has Sarah and John's trust? I'd really hate that.

I finally saw the episode, and thought it was great. As for the chip that Cameron stole, I wonder if she has orders to reprogram it and make another terminator to help them out, Which is something Sarah would be against doing. I think that John doesn't keep anyone close to him because he doesn't want to be betrayed, and never knows which one of them could be a terminator.

A guess... There are BIG hint's they are going the route of BSG with the Robots.... Humanity.

ANd that is what the chip is about for now at least. Her facing her own mortality and having so brutaly killd her own kind.

What the chip may become I have no idea.

Maybe she does something that is perceved as bad in this timeline but John knows that it is necessary for the future? Also, because of the time travel/paradox problem we could say that John doesn't know that Carmen goes bad because in his reality she wasn't sent back...this is why I usually shy away from time travel, there are too many possibilities.

Or maybe he is just going on about in his deluded stat at how they can go bad , and connecting her to it because she was involved in his finding out about that?

Oh, definitely. In the pilot (or maybe epi 2), Sarah referred to Cameron as "the Tin Man" from the Wizard of Oz. And what did the Tin Man want? A heart.

Since Cameron is apparently a different kind of Terminator, perhaps she has the capacity for some sort of morality or code of ethics as well ... and that may be what keeps her from becoming unredeemably bad.

PS. Michael Biehn was also Johnny Ringo in Tombstone. He and Val Kilmer (as Doc Holliday) stole the show. "I'm your huckleberry."

Ah yes, I really had to let go of that even from the first movie LOL it was so trippy when I came out of the theater and tried to figure it all out LMAO!