Ok so I see so many different nfl threads I thought we needed one to talk about it all in.
First off, sorry MIKEthec I owned your Browns twice this year. (Like I do most years) And no, no need to send me a Browns Jacket. But I think we just might meet again, if the Browns dont implode like the lions have and totally fall apart.
I see the NFC as being mostly set.
Div winners.
Green Bay
Seattle (See Russ I said you would get in, still I shut you out LOL) But your team is Healthy now.
Tampa Bay
Dallas
Wildcards
Giants
Vikings
AFC is not so set
Div winners
Indy
Pats
Steelers
San Diego?? Maybe
Wildcard
Jags
and who knows
Just guesses on my part
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In the NFC don't count out Arizona, Detroit (if they get it together on D), Carolina, and New Orleans (depends if last years team shows up or not. We see glimpses every once and a while.) just yet.
In the AFC don't count out The Titans, other than that I don't see any other possibilities.
In the AFC don't count out The Titans, other than that I don't see any other possibilities.
It is time for the Jags to implode.
Weekly Titans report:
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/doperbo/tit...omethingorother
Right now, the Jags are ahead of us (unless Dungy rests his starters in the final week, and we beat Indy) and we have to win out.
The Browns are a game ahead by divisional tie-breakers for the 6th playoff spot.
<Correction...The Browns just have to lose another AFC game to be tied for Div and Conf records. I am not sure how the tie breaks after that. Maybe they impode as well.>
It is very possible though that 3 AFCS teams will be in the post-season.
Weekly Titans report:
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/doperbo/tit...omethingorother
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Our pass rush isn’t a different animal with Haynesworth in the game, it’s an entirely different species. Maybe a different order or phylum or something, whichever one is bigger. Watch the play where Odom got to Schaub and note how many lineman are initially tied up with Albert on the play. He’s flinging them around like hobbits off a cave troll. Or check out who gets blown up on the long run down to the goal line by Dayne. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we’re a top ten defense with him and last years defense + some minor secondary upgrades without him. It’s not even close. I’m trying to think of a cap hit too high to sign him back and frankly I’m not sure there is one. It was nice to see Griffin making plays, every snap he gets the learning curve is flattening out. Of course everyone noticed what happened the one play Harper was out. Giving a 7 yard cushion on 3rd and 3 makes about as much sense as JaMarcus Russell’s wardrobe, but what can you do. It’s a known quantity and not worth going into at any length.
On offense it seems like VY is getting more comfortable. This usually happens when coaches simplify the offense, as Norm is rumored to have done this week. Of course simplifying the offense is generally coachspeak for sticking with plays that actually work. Funny how that happens. In this paradigm, running LenDale into the teeth of the defense twice then asking Vince to convert third and long repeatedly would be considered complicating the offense. Rolling him out every now then to take a shot downfield when it isn’t third and a mile would be a simplifying maneuver. Standing in the pocket and hitting someone with no separation and flippers for hands over and over would be complicated. Calling some designed runs to soften the rush? Simple. Thank you for simplifying the offense Norm, because it simply works. In this light I’d recommend Lindsey Lohan and Carrot Top be in charge of next week’s offensive game plan. In fact, if you keep the Flowers for Algernon version of the playbook we might win the freaking Superbowl next year, and all you have to do is get out of your own way. Give in to the light side.
If Greg Davis can figure it out, trust me, literally anyone can. And I mean anyone.
On offense it seems like VY is getting more comfortable. This usually happens when coaches simplify the offense, as Norm is rumored to have done this week. Of course simplifying the offense is generally coachspeak for sticking with plays that actually work. Funny how that happens. In this paradigm, running LenDale into the teeth of the defense twice then asking Vince to convert third and long repeatedly would be considered complicating the offense. Rolling him out every now then to take a shot downfield when it isn’t third and a mile would be a simplifying maneuver. Standing in the pocket and hitting someone with no separation and flippers for hands over and over would be complicated. Calling some designed runs to soften the rush? Simple. Thank you for simplifying the offense Norm, because it simply works. In this light I’d recommend Lindsey Lohan and Carrot Top be in charge of next week’s offensive game plan. In fact, if you keep the Flowers for Algernon version of the playbook we might win the freaking Superbowl next year, and all you have to do is get out of your own way. Give in to the light side.
If Greg Davis can figure it out, trust me, literally anyone can. And I mean anyone.
Right now, the Jags are ahead of us (unless Dungy rests his starters in the final week, and we beat Indy) and we have to win out.
The Browns are a game ahead by divisional tie-breakers for the 6th playoff spot.
<Correction...The Browns just have to lose another AFC game to be tied for Div and Conf records. I am not sure how the tie breaks after that. Maybe they impode as well.>
It is very possible though that 3 AFCS teams will be in the post-season.
Overtime loss probably dooms the Titans post-season hopes.
Barking Carnival advises:
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/doperbo/titans-week-14
Barking Carnival advises:
http://www.barkingcarnival.com/doperbo/titans-week-14
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Since most of you didn’t get to see the game let me warn you, the fourth quarter was painful. Really painful. Think making out with Ricki Lake while passing a kidney stone with one of those little worms from Wrath of Kahn drilling into your ear while Marques Slocum whispers Shakespeare into the other ear while a Jared Jewelry commercial plays on a continuous loop in the background (He went to Jared!). Easily the most painful loss this season. I wouldn’t watch the replay unless you have some hydrocodone syrup or a DEA number with some room left on it.
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For the Austin folks who didn’t get to see it, we moved the ball at times but couldn’t convert third downs, I think we were 2/10 at one point. We also had trouble in the red zone until the third quarter, including a missed FG, so it was 3-0 at the half and 17-3 by the end of the third. On the other side we completely shut down their run game and had Rivers absolutely running for his life. Albert was almost back to old form and the rest of the Dline was teeing off- the play on the ground was much more dominating than the score, especially in the first half. Harper and Griffin were ballhawking and we were laying out their WR’s and actually knocked Gates out for awhile. It was awesome. At 17-3 it should have been over.
Rivers had a quarterback rating of 10 at one point. Actually that’s being too harsh. It was 10.4. Think about that for a second. Even with two picks that’s hard to pull off. He made Carr seem competent and popular by comparison. Not only that, but his team mates were done with him as well- they were broken. He got hit on a rollout at one point and flopped around on the field like a wounded deer for awhile and no one even bothered to help him up. Even I was yelling “Just sit down man…”. LaDanian wouldn’t sit next to him on the bench. I think Norv flipped him off from the sidelines at one point, then made the Billick kissy face when he noticed. Mike Vick called him to ask if it was cool if he didn’t hang out with him anymore, for image reasons. When Rivers did go out they brought in Billy “I pretended to be in town when I was off fishing, is that a problem?” Volek, who promptly coughed the ball up some more.
They. Were. Broken.
So what happened? Three things, really.
1. LaDanian. He and Gates were really the only spark they had, and LT in particular won that game for them. He made it possible for Rivers to piece together a couple of drives. He kept somehow pulling shoestring catches off screen passes out of the air and bouncing it outside just enough to take over in the fourth quarter and OT. The guy is a flat out baller. On a side note Dennis Franchione owes him about 10 million dollars.
2. The Defense wore out. It seemed that they were on the field the entire fourth quarter. Our defense is one of the best in the league with Haynesworth in but we’ve had trouble before this year in the fourth quarter ( Tampa, Houston ) getting off the field and fatigue played a big part in this one. We have some nice pieces on D, and claim to have depth, but the dropoff from the ones to the twos at Dline and DB is huge. We’re a year or two away from real depth and a championship caliber defense, assuming we resign Haynesworth. A bad call on 4th and 5 didn’t help, but we still should have been able to get a stop if number 3 hadn’t happened…
3. The offense turtled. If you play TF or Halo you know what I’m talking about. Once you get a lead you stop sending anyone over, turtle the flag, and try to hold on. We did the NFL equivalent of that. It’s a decent strategy if your D can hold up. If not, it’s a great way to lose a game, and it really bit us this time. Huck and Eric and others have mentioned it, but we ran on 1st and 2nd down an insane number of times, lending a predictability to our offense usually reserved for glacial melt and swallow migration. The SD LB’s absolutely loved it, shutting down everything inside on first and second, then jumping the hot routes on third. I blame Vince for the interception on 3rd and 2, he’s almost two seasons in and should know better, but it isn’t like anyone in that entire stadium didn’t know where we were headed with that. Long Duk Dong could have figured it out.
Rivers had a quarterback rating of 10 at one point. Actually that’s being too harsh. It was 10.4. Think about that for a second. Even with two picks that’s hard to pull off. He made Carr seem competent and popular by comparison. Not only that, but his team mates were done with him as well- they were broken. He got hit on a rollout at one point and flopped around on the field like a wounded deer for awhile and no one even bothered to help him up. Even I was yelling “Just sit down man…”. LaDanian wouldn’t sit next to him on the bench. I think Norv flipped him off from the sidelines at one point, then made the Billick kissy face when he noticed. Mike Vick called him to ask if it was cool if he didn’t hang out with him anymore, for image reasons. When Rivers did go out they brought in Billy “I pretended to be in town when I was off fishing, is that a problem?” Volek, who promptly coughed the ball up some more.
They. Were. Broken.
So what happened? Three things, really.
1. LaDanian. He and Gates were really the only spark they had, and LT in particular won that game for them. He made it possible for Rivers to piece together a couple of drives. He kept somehow pulling shoestring catches off screen passes out of the air and bouncing it outside just enough to take over in the fourth quarter and OT. The guy is a flat out baller. On a side note Dennis Franchione owes him about 10 million dollars.
2. The Defense wore out. It seemed that they were on the field the entire fourth quarter. Our defense is one of the best in the league with Haynesworth in but we’ve had trouble before this year in the fourth quarter ( Tampa, Houston ) getting off the field and fatigue played a big part in this one. We have some nice pieces on D, and claim to have depth, but the dropoff from the ones to the twos at Dline and DB is huge. We’re a year or two away from real depth and a championship caliber defense, assuming we resign Haynesworth. A bad call on 4th and 5 didn’t help, but we still should have been able to get a stop if number 3 hadn’t happened…
3. The offense turtled. If you play TF or Halo you know what I’m talking about. Once you get a lead you stop sending anyone over, turtle the flag, and try to hold on. We did the NFL equivalent of that. It’s a decent strategy if your D can hold up. If not, it’s a great way to lose a game, and it really bit us this time. Huck and Eric and others have mentioned it, but we ran on 1st and 2nd down an insane number of times, lending a predictability to our offense usually reserved for glacial melt and swallow migration. The SD LB’s absolutely loved it, shutting down everything inside on first and second, then jumping the hot routes on third. I blame Vince for the interception on 3rd and 2, he’s almost two seasons in and should know better, but it isn’t like anyone in that entire stadium didn’t know where we were headed with that. Long Duk Dong could have figured it out.
Yeah you are more than likely right DM about the Titans. What I fear is if the Steelers lose the next 3 games they might be out as well.
Not to mention the fact they had the asses handed to them by the Pats. Who IMO even though they are cheaters, are 1 of the best teams I have ever seen.
They had a chance to lose a couple of times. But sometimes great teams will stumble a little during the season and lose a couple. The fact they pulled thru that time with no loses at all, makes me think they will go 16-0 and win the super bowl. I know it sucks, but I think the rest of us are playing for nothing now.
Time to look foward to next season all!
Not to mention the fact they had the asses handed to them by the Pats. Who IMO even though they are cheaters, are 1 of the best teams I have ever seen.
They had a chance to lose a couple of times. But sometimes great teams will stumble a little during the season and lose a couple. The fact they pulled thru that time with no loses at all, makes me think they will go 16-0 and win the super bowl. I know it sucks, but I think the rest of us are playing for nothing now.
Time to look foward to next season all!
The Pats are good, but I'm won't say that Moss is the best wide out ever, cause in a sence that is what your saying. Someone will figure them out.
QUOTE(russant @ Dec 11 2007, 10:07 PM) 
The Pats are good, but I'm won't say that Moss is the best wide out ever, cause in a sence that is what your saying. Someone will figure them out.
Thats just it Russ, they even show you they are going to pass all the time, they run an average 9 times a game. And they still cant be stoped.
If someone does figure them out, it wont be untill next year. They have homefield thruought, and the best team that has a chance is the Colts, who never play good at New England. If 1 snowflake hits the ground Payton will trip over it.
Its over gang its over. The best teams out there with just a couple of losses are Colts, Dallas. Who gave them that lose......yeah.
The Boston Asterisks are a cheap and dirty, low class team.
They whine like women when somone hits their players too hard, but try to act like manly men when they get called for cheap shots.
Only an AFC game with the Asterisks vs the Dolts will have the refs so confused about which team to favor will allow for fair and even-handed officiating.
On another note, it is possible for the last place team in the AFC South to have 9 wins.
They whine like women when somone hits their players too hard, but try to act like manly men when they get called for cheap shots.
Only an AFC game with the Asterisks vs the Dolts will have the refs so confused about which team to favor will allow for fair and even-handed officiating.
On another note, it is possible for the last place team in the AFC South to have 9 wins.
QUOTE(DarthMarley @ Dec 12 2007, 11:01 PM)
The Boston Asterisks are a cheap and dirty, low class team.
They whine like women when somone hits their players too hard, but try to act like manly men when they get called for cheap shots.
Only an AFC game with the Asterisks vs the Dolts will have the refs so confused about which team to favor will allow for fair and even-handed officiating.
On another note, it is possible for the last place team in the AFC South to have 9 wins.
They whine like women when somone hits their players too hard, but try to act like manly men when they get called for cheap shots.
Only an AFC game with the Asterisks vs the Dolts will have the refs so confused about which team to favor will allow for fair and even-handed officiating.
On another note, it is possible for the last place team in the AFC South to have 9 wins.
Dolts....LOL. LOL LOL LOL LOL I hate the Dolts!
I don't like the Colts either, but I respect the hell out of Peyton. I love his commercials too. A lot of people don't like them but I think they are funny as hell.
What the hell, Steelers? Losing to the Faguars?
They always do DM...ALWAYS. I mean if the Steelers cant beat the Rams on Thursday, they really do not belong in the playoffs, sad to say, but it's the truth.
If you don't take your division, then it means you have to lose out for us to get in.
Just may hppen this Thursday, I'm sure the Steelers can find it within themselves to lose somehow, someway.
Ha!
Kellen Winslow can eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork.
Kellen Winslow can eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork.
To all Browns fans;
Eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork!
Titans make playoffs.
Steelers damn well ought to knock off the Faguars in the first round.
Eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork!
Titans make playoffs.
Steelers damn well ought to knock off the Faguars in the first round.
QUOTE(DarthMarley @ Dec 31 2007, 03:03 PM)
To all Browns fans;
Eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork!
Titans make playoffs.
Steelers damn well ought to knock off the Faguars in the first round.
Eat a bag of shit with a dirty fork!
Titans make playoffs.
Steelers damn well ought to knock off the Faguars in the first round.
Haha, Nope!!!!
QUOTE(russant @ Jan 8 2008, 11:03 PM)
Haha, Nope!!!!
What are you laughing at? As usual your team lost to the Packers...BAd I might add.
Yes Yes I know the Steelers lost yet again to the Jags. I really hate the Jags.
Oh well Russant theres always next year.
QUOTE(thesteeler @ Feb 16 2008, 03:05 PM)
What are you laughing at? As usual your team lost to the Packers...BAd I might add.
Yes Yes I know the Steelers lost yet again to the Jags. I really hate the Jags.
Oh well Russant theres always next year.
Yes Yes I know the Steelers lost yet again to the Jags. I really hate the Jags.
Oh well Russant theres always next year.
Well that's because the Packers kick ass.
But they did lose to the shitty Giants.
Just because I know this question is coming, my team is the Eagles, and yes I know they suck more than anyone, but there you have it.
Other than them, I'm pretty much 'anyone but the fucking Patriots'
QUOTE(thesteeler @ Feb 16 2008, 12:05 PM)
What are you laughing at? As usual your team lost to the Packers...BAd I might add.
Yes Yes I know the Steelers lost yet again to the Jags. I really hate the Jags.
Oh well Russant theres always next year.
Yes Yes I know the Steelers lost yet again to the Jags. I really hate the Jags.
Oh well Russant theres always next year.
I don't know wtf happen to them. They looked terrible.
QUOTE(SGKoneko @ Feb 17 2008, 02:03 PM)
Well that's because the Packers kick ass.
But they did lose to the shitty Giants.
Just because I know this question is coming, my team is the Eagles, and yes I know they suck more than anyone, but there you have it.
Other than them, I'm pretty much 'anyone but the fucking Patriots'
But they did lose to the shitty Giants.
Just because I know this question is coming, my team is the Eagles, and yes I know they suck more than anyone, but there you have it.
Other than them, I'm pretty much 'anyone but the fucking Patriots'
I'm just glad that the Pats lost.
QUOTE(russant @ Feb 17 2008, 07:27 PM)
I don't know wtf happen to them. They looked terrible.
I'm just glad that the Pats lost.
I'm just glad that the Pats lost.
Me too.
I cheered and turned into a little 8 year old boy going NEENER NEENER NEENER to all Pats fans.
QUOTE(SGKoneko @ Feb 17 2008, 05:46 PM)
Me too.
I cheered and turned into a little 8 year old boy going NEENER NEENER NEENER to all Pats fans.
I cheered and turned into a little 8 year old boy going NEENER NEENER NEENER to all Pats fans.
I won a dollar bet from a 10 year old.
QUOTE(russant @ Feb 17 2008, 08:52 PM)
I won a dollar bet from a 10 year old.
lol nice!
QUOTE(SGKoneko @ Feb 17 2008, 06:05 PM)
lol nice!
SG your gonna make some dude very happy one day. Hot and likes scifi and football.
QUOTE(russant @ Feb 17 2008, 09:34 PM)
SG your gonna make some dude very happy one day. Hot and likes scifi and football.
lmao.
I'd rather play football.
I love almost all sports, except those I don't consider actual sports: Cheerleading, Golf, and Nascar.
QUOTE(SGKoneko @ Feb 17 2008, 08:13 PM)
lmao.
I'd rather play football.
I love almost all sports, except those I don't consider actual sports: Cheerleading, Golf, and Nascar.
I'd rather play football.
I love almost all sports, except those I don't consider actual sports: Cheerleading, Golf, and Nascar.
Saweet
Can't wait for baseball season either. Maybe now that we have more people around here we can start a baseball thread.
QUOTE(russant @ Feb 18 2008, 01:27 PM)
Saweet
Can't wait for baseball season either. Maybe now that we have more people around here we can start a baseball thread.
Can't wait for baseball season either. Maybe now that we have more people around here we can start a baseball thread.
Ugghh not baseball.
THAT I don't like.
Sooo boring and so boring to play even!
QUOTE(SGKoneko @ Feb 18 2008, 11:37 AM)
Ugghh not baseball.
THAT I don't like.
Sooo boring and so boring to play even!
THAT I don't like.
Sooo boring and so boring to play even!
Ugh just when I was starting to like you.
QUOTE(russant @ Feb 18 2008, 06:11 PM)
Ugh just when I was starting to like you.
lmao sorry.
I used to like baseball when I was young and didn't actually pay attention to it.
After playing it I developed a deep hatred.
Maybe if I wasn't subjected to the crappy positions because I wasn't a friend of the coach's kid I would like it. *shrugs*
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