Babylon 5, Boldly going... Around and around... |
![]() ![]() |
Babylon 5, Boldly going... Around and around... |
May 19 2008, 04:23 PM
Post
#41
|
|
|
Admiral Group: Cylon Posts: 8,064 Joined: 28-April 08 Member No.: 2,591 |
You know, I can't believe I forgot this one . . .
Sheridan: "And just how did you get this information, Mr. Bester?" Bester: "I'm a telepath, Captain . . . figure it out." -------------------- Strategy is theology with the hope removed.
Surprise happens in the mind of the commander. The U.S. Military: Making the world safe for Democrats since 1945. God is the Final Cylon. We Are Right. Why? Because We Say So. Brought to you by the We Say So Corporation. Here lie the bones of Lieutenant Jones, a graduate of this institution. He died on the night of his very first fight, while using the school solution. An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "Saviour of his Country" when the guns begin to shoot. |
|
|
|
May 23 2008, 10:28 PM
Post
#42
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Some details of how Babylon 5 was deep-sixed by F*X and their affiliates:
Quoted from Wikipedia: "PTEN was launched as a potential fifth network, and offered packaged nights of programming to television stations, beginning with a two-hour block, with second block added one year later. However, close to half of PTEN's initial affiliates were Fox stations, and PTEN programming was usually scheduled around Fox's then five-night prime time schedule. Some PTEN-affiliated stations took issue with the network's barter split, which gave nine minutes of advertising time per hour to the syndicator, leaving only five minutes to the stations. The network also ran into difficulty when the studio was forced to let stations out of their back-end commitments for several series." Very similarly to what happened to Firefly, Babylon 5 was turned into a scheduling hot-potato, where F*X was concerned, the pea in a shell-game of pre-emption and rescheduling which, ultimately, caused it to be lost from sight. Many of us were VERY grateful (for a while) to TNT for allowing JMS to complete his story, though, there were issues with that network about series content which made for a less-than-perfect partnership. I still hate and distrust F*X. -Raycheetah ='[.]'= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
May 27 2008, 03:17 PM
Post
#43
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
This looks interesting:
"Welcome to the home of novo Babylonia! an audio adventure based on the acclaimed sci-fi show babylon 5! Based 6 years after the death of John J Sheridan and the destruction of Babylon 5, Novo B follows on where B-5 left off. The year is 2287, The Interstellar Alliance has split with some of the major races at war with one another, indeed even the Centari are experiencing what they call a minor civial upset. We join David Sheridan, Son of John and Delenn as he is recalled to Minbar and seconded into the ISA by President Susan Ivanova to aid the refugees and defend the remaining ISA member worlds from attack. With his fledgling career cut short, David is very resistive, and he knows only too well, that his history with the Drahk makes him a less than popular choice. The ISA decide that they need to make a stand and bring the truth of light once again to the galaxy. For David this is a trying time, with the factions that have split from ISA, and those that are within, he's got a tough job to do, and then there's the Anlashok! David however is left a message, one that mystifies him, his mother, Delenn, reveals to him that all hope my not be lost. Delenn reveals to David that since the desruction of Babylon 5, there has been a secret project running, growing, within the Anlashok, known only to the few. Delenn, as usual. is candid with her details, but reveals to David the name of the project. The name is Novo Babylonia. Novo Babylonia is destined to be an “open source” collaboration, with many people from around the world lending their talents and their time to the project. Everything from writing, acting to music and sound production will be done by volunteers who enjoy this chance to say thank you to all those who made the Babylon 5 universe possible. Wherever possible, sources will be referenced and acknowledgements will be posted. Novo Babylonia is a non-for-resale venture. COMING SOON! Listen to the trailer NOW!" (Made on a Mac!) Sounds a bit amateurish, but then, when has that ever mattered, when someone is passionate enough to attempt something like this? -Raycheetah =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
May 27 2008, 03:22 PM
Post
#44
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
From another post (on Skiffy) by the fellow who posted that last bit:
HI All! :lol: I have a little problem, I would like some opinions (and help) on a little project I'm thinking of starting up. The basic idea, is that the story line, the writing, the effects, the music and the actors all come from fans of the show. A way of saying thanks for one of the greatest epics of all time. It's kinda like a large forum, where prospective writer/musician/actor can air their goods and get voted on, culimnating in the production of an episode or two (I hope). Think of it as Open Source Fan-ware ! I have thrown somethign together here: Http://www.novo-b.com CORRECTED HYPERLINK - Thanks Sam! Just to start things off, I've done it all myself so far, but one is a lonely number don't you think? I welcome your feed back. I'm a new guy around here, so please be gentle. :D thanks Tony. You gettin' this, Mike? -RC =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 09:40 PM
Post
#45
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Hey, look! Free streaming Babylon 5, without Chinese subtitles:
http://video.aol.com/video-category/babylon-5/103266 =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Jul 2 2008, 09:42 PM
Post
#46
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
-------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Jul 3 2008, 10:30 PM
Post
#47
|
|
|
Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,041 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 195 |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2008, 08:32 PM
Post
#48
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Well, it's over.
from jmsnews.com "Putting this on a recent thread here where it's more likely to be seen in a quick fashion.... Several things just to update folks. First, many thanks to all those who sent along research suggestions and offerings to be of assistance on the project I can't talk about. I've been swamped with deadlines and unable to reply to any of the public notes and private emails, but as soon as I can get my head above water, be assured that I'll be in touch with many of you. Second, as noted in the original thread before I hijacked it, yes, the plan at the moment is that I will be at Comic Con San Diego this year, primarily doing my thing on Thursday and Saturday afternoons. There is a *chance* -- mind you, it's just a slim chance but to be honorable I must mention it -- that a work situation *may* preclude my appearance there. Or it may not. I'll know more by the end of next week, and for now as far as I know, everything's on target for me to be at SDCC. If that changes, I'll be sure to let everyone know as far in advance as possible. One final note re: recent discussions on TMoS and more Lost Tales. B5:TLT was commissioned at a $2 million budget to, yet one more time, "test the waters" for B5. We did what we could with that, and that was that. As we did with Rangers, which also suffered from not having a lot of money because of concerns about "is there really a B5 audience?" Which is, of course, a foolish question from a studio that has never really understood what it has in B5. Of late, there have been more discussions from WB about doing more DVDs, again at a low cost, or a cable thing, again with minimal investment. So for the last few months, I've been giving this whole subject a lot of quiet thought. And I've come to a conclusion. B5 as a five year story stands beautifully on its own. If anything else is to be continued from that story, it should be something that adds to the legacy of B5, rather than subtracts from it. As well intentioned as Rangers and TLT were, as enticing as it was to return to those familiar waters, in the end I think they did more to subtract from the legacy than add to it. I don't regret having made them, because I needed to go through that to get to the point where I am now psychologically, but from where I sit now, I wouldn't make them again. So I've let everyone up here know that I'm not interested in doing any more low-budget DVDs. I'm not interested in doing any low-budget cable things or small computer games. The only thing I would be interested in doing regarding Babylon 5 from this point on is a full- featured, big-budget feature film. It's that or nothing. And if it's nothing, I'm totally cool with that because the original story stands on its own just fine. I'm not lobbying for it, I'm not asking fans to write in about it (nor should you) because such campaigns never really have much impact...that's simply the position I've taken up here. Lord knows I don't lack for other things to do these days. I'm busier on more prestige projects with terrific people and great film-makers than at any other time in my career. At the end of the day, for me, it's not just a matter of getting more B5. It's a matter of getting more *good* B5 that respects what came before it and doesn't have to compromise visually or in terms of action. The original show deserves better than that, the surviving cast members deserve better than that, and the fans who have supported it over the years definitely deserve better than that. A lot better. So I've drawn that line in the sand, and I'm happy living on whichever side of that line the universe puts me. Just thought you should know, 'cause it's your show too. jms" Yeah... It's true. Better not to further dilute the impact of B5 with sub-par productions. Sometimes, you can't go home again. =-[.]-= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Jul 15 2008, 11:24 PM
Post
#49
|
|
|
Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,041 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 195 |
Thus proving that some lessons cannot be taught, then can only be experienced.
I, for one, am glad that jms finally came to this conclusion. It's more-or-less the opinion I've held for a while, and especially in light of TLT. Don't get me wrong, it was great to see Bruce and Co. again, and clearly the opticals were absolute perfection. But the stories added nothing to the B5 universe. Having watched Season 5, I'm one of those crazies who almost wishes he would have left it at four seasons instead, and the primary reason for that is it would have given him a wealth of material to explore which actually would have added to the series. Of course, with the deaths of Richard and Andreas, it's kind of hard to continue on the series anyhow. C 'est la vie. |
|
|
|
Jul 15 2008, 11:29 PM
Post
#50
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
...And the death of Tim Choate, who, while a lesser luminary, still made a contribution to B5.
=-[.]-= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Sep 17 2008, 07:40 PM
Post
#51
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning
This is a brilliant ST:NG/B5 parody by a group of Finnish fans. It starts out a bit slowly (the story is built upon their evolving Star Wreck series), and is an hour and 43 minutes long, but it is well-worth the watching. The humor translates well, and the effects are top-notch. If you find you enjoy it, look for the earlier (shorter) episodes in the series (sadly lacking the B5 references). =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 PM
Post
#52
|
|
![]() Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,200 Joined: 30-April 08 From: BaseStar 101 Member No.: 2,596 |
Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RHAPXlVq5lk&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RHAPXlVq5lk&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> This is a brilliant ST:NG/B5 parody by a group of Finnish fans. It starts out a bit slowly (the story is built upon their evolving Star Wreck series), and is an hour and 43 minutes long, but it is well-worth the watching. The humor translates well, and the effects are top-notch. If you find you enjoy it, look for the earlier (shorter) episodes in the series (sadly lacking the B5 references). =^[.]^= I have seen that film and it is really funny, I also highly recommend it. -------------------- Female Cenobite: "Didn't open the box." And what was it last time, "Didn't know what the box was?" And yet, we do keep finding each other, don't we?
Pinhead: Oh, Kirsty. So eager to play, so reluctant to admit it. Female Cenobite: Perhaps you're teasing us. Are you teasing us? Pinhead: Two minutes. Two centuries. It all ticks by so quickly. You are so very like your ancestors, did you know that? I have the distinct sense of déjà vu. The same defiance, the same faithless hope in the light? Dr Paul Merchant: And what do you have faith in? Pinhead: Nothing. I am SO exquisitely empty. |
|
|
|
Sep 17 2008, 08:05 PM
Post
#53
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Just for those Babylonians who are inclined to be impatient, you see your first Starfury 27 minutes into the film. Then it's a nice mix of ST:NG and B5 until the end.
=^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Oct 11 2008, 10:37 PM
Post
#54
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
The strong women of Babylon 5: Commander Susan Ivanova: Ambassador Delenn: Telepath Lyta Alexander: =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 01:34 AM
Post
#55
|
|
|
Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,041 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 195 |
Ray:
With all due respect, fellow Babylonier, I believe the following is much more representative of the "wrath" of Lyta Alexander: |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 01:58 AM
Post
#56
|
|
|
Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,041 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 195 |
And speaking of the "Strong Women" of Babylon 5:
Witness one Susan Ivanova, who with the White Star fleet kicked the ever-living shit out of a force of Shadow-tech enhanced Earth Alliance destroyers: |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 09:26 AM
Post
#57
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
Ray: With all due respect, fellow Babylonier, I believe the following is much more representative of the "wrath" of Lyta Alexander: Well, ya know, I figgered I could count on you to find some good vids, Mike... I just didn't think this one was one of Lyta's finer moments. And speaking of the "Strong Women" of Babylon 5: Witness one Susan Ivanova, who with the White Star fleet kicked the ever-living shit out of a force of Shadow-tech enhanced Earth Alliance destroyers: Nice! This was actually the vid I had been hoping to find for Ivanova. Anybody have any good vid of Na'toth or Talia Winters? =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 11:30 AM
Post
#58
|
|
|
Colonel Group: Cylon Posts: 3,041 Joined: 19-June 06 Member No.: 195 |
Well, ya know, I figgered I could count on you to find some good vids, Mike... I just didn't think this one was one of Lyta's finer moments. Well yeah, she does still get busted at the end. Maybe the one where she sets off the auto-destruct system on Z'Ha'Dum then, I suppose. I just wanted something which shows her... waitaminit... just thought of another one as I'm typing this. Lemme see... yes!!! Now that is the Ultimate Lyta Alexander! QUOTE Nice! This was actually the vid I had been hoping to find for Ivanova. You're very kindly welcome, Ray. |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 01:14 PM
Post
#59
|
|
![]() Major Group: Cylon Posts: 2,457 Joined: 4-May 08 Member No.: 2,611 |
I more of an Ivanova fan but I felt that Delenn was more groundbreaking as a strong woman because her strength came from her religious beliefs and her iron will.
-------------------- ![]() ![]() 1) "In limitation does the master really prove himself and it is only the law which can provide us with freedom" 2) "Like music and art, the Torah cannot be approached from the perspective of academic learning. It is the soul's language that is at stake" 3) "So the real moral of the story is that if you disobey your parents you'll become a king" - G "You're completely distorting the message of the story" - JB "I know, I'm a Lawyer, I do that all the time" – G 4) A fact of politics is this (and it applies to me as well): We always seem to find justification for the actions of those we support while finding reasons to condemn those we don't. 5) "Boys, have you got a thing for long skirts? Girls, have you got a thing for tzitzit's hanging out & black hats? Ever had a shomer negiyah crush? Too bad! Can't touch this nahnahnahnahnah nahnah nahnah! Being shomer = hot + shtark!." 6) "My shoes are too tight and I have forgotten how to dance" - Londo "I don't understand" - Vir "Nor should you" - Londo 7) "And then he showed his rabbi cards" - G-Kid 8) “I hope you’re not a mets fan” – Prof Dileonardo “Actually I am” – Student “Do everyone a favor and please leave the room” - Prof Dileonardo B5 Gift Shop & How to deal with Reporters & Just say no to AI & Don't date robots!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
Oct 12 2008, 01:22 PM
Post
#60
|
|
![]() Shiny One Group: Mod Posts: 5,704 Joined: 15-February 08 From: SC Member No.: 2,089 |
I more of an Ivanova fan but I felt that Delenn was more groundbreaking as a strong woman because her strength came from her religious beliefs and her iron will. Figgered you'd show up to this shindig, Lono! Glad to have ya join in! Ivanova was, to me, more impressive, because she found her strength and her courage despite some real fears and flaws. Delenn, on the other hand, was interesting to me because, despite her "humanization," she would, at times, remind us that she was still a Minbari. =^[.]^= -------------------- The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.
![]() Click HERE to combat Hunger and Breast Cancer, and to support Child Health, Literacy, Rainforest, and Animal Rescue, for free! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
|
|
![]() ![]() |
| Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 22nd November 2009 - 01:54 PM |