Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Options

[Rowan]

I know, right? I went to IMDB and looked him up and there were lots of movies and tv shows he was in that I hadn't seen. I'll be going to the local video/dvd store this weekend to see if they have any of them.

TV series "Adventure Inc." "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324681/" was kind of fun to watch. Lots of Michael doing action stuff!

[Rowan]

Loved Michael in Terminator had mad crush on him for a long time.

I did not recognise him AT ALL in The Abyss - one of my favourite movies too.

I was very nervous who they would pick to play his role - haven't been overly impressed. Brian Austen Green really stole the show and to me it was always Michael's character tha always had such huge screen presence.

I LOVE Charlie Dixon (Dean Winters) if anyone reminds me of Kyle Reese it's him. He has that same kind of softness to him and that same look in his eyes. I hope they bring him back more.

Cameron this last episode has me very concerned. Why did she keep the chip? Is she planning on switching her "reprogramed" chip for the other Terminators?

"sometimes they go bad"??????

So many questions...
Why did they let the guys go?
What was the music they heard?
Why would John trust "Cameron" in the future (giving her access to the time travel room) if she does something bad in the present?
Why would Reese be so freaked out by Cameron if she saved him from the other Terminator and then took him to see John?
Now that Good has been killed and he was the creator of the whole thing how will this change things for John?

[TBug]

TV series "Adventure Inc." "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324681/" was kind of fun to watch. Lots of Michael doing action stuff!

Thanks ever so much Ms. Rowan! I'm all for watching him do action stuff, lol. Hopefully if my rental place doesn't have it then I can find it somewhere online

[TBug]

Loved Michael in Terminator had mad crush on him for a long time.

I did not recognise him AT ALL in The Abyss - one of my favourite movies too.

I was very nervous who they would pick to play his role - haven't been overly impressed. Brian Austen Green really stole the show and to me it was always Michael's character tha always had such huge screen presence.

I LOVE Charlie Dixon (Dean Winters) if anyone reminds me of Kyle Reese it's him. He has that same kind of softness to him and that same look in his eyes. I hope they bring him back more.

Cameron this last episode has me very concerned. Why did she keep the chip? Is she planning on switching her "reprogramed" chip for the other Terminators?

"sometimes they go bad"??????

So many questions...
Why did they let the guys go?
What was the music they heard?
Why would John trust "Cameron" in the future (giving her access to the time travel room) if she does something bad in the present?
Why would Reese be so freaked out by Cameron if she saved him from the other Terminator and then took him to see John?
Now that Good has been killed and he was the creator of the whole thing how will this change things for John?

Me too still do! And yeah I wasn't happy with his character in the abyss but he did play the hell outta that part didn't he? I don't think he'd have done what he did if he wasn't reacting negetively to the pressure of the water at those depths, the hpns. And yeah I own the directors dvd of that movie and watch it about once a month.

I also had trepiditions about who would play his role...and if they could handle it as well. I still reserve judgement.

I have no idea what's happening with Cameron....but surely they won't have her turn into a "bad" terminator now that she has Sarah and John's trust? I'd really hate that.

[russant]

I finally saw the episode, and thought it was great. As for the chip that Cameron stole, I wonder if she has orders to reprogram it and make another terminator to help them out, Which is something Sarah would be against doing. I think that John doesn't keep anyone close to him because he doesn't want to be betrayed, and never knows which one of them could be a terminator.

[Starbuck]

A guess... There are BIG hint's they are going the route of BSG with the Robots.... Humanity.

ANd that is what the chip is about for now at least. Her facing her own mortality and having so brutaly killd her own kind.

What the chip may become I have no idea.

[MrsDrJackson]

Loved Michael in Terminator had mad crush on him for a long time.

I did not recognise him AT ALL in The Abyss - one of my favourite movies too.

I was very nervous who they would pick to play his role - haven't been overly impressed. Brian Austen Green really stole the show and to me it was always Michael's character tha always had such huge screen presence.

I LOVE Charlie Dixon (Dean Winters) if anyone reminds me of Kyle Reese it's him. He has that same kind of softness to him and that same look in his eyes. I hope they bring him back more.

Cameron this last episode has me very concerned. Why did she keep the chip? Is she planning on switching her "reprogramed" chip for the other Terminators?

"sometimes they go bad"??????

So many questions...
Why did they let the guys go?
What was the music they heard?
Why would John trust "Cameron" in the future (giving her access to the time travel room) if she does something bad in the present?
Why would Reese be so freaked out by Cameron if she saved him from the other Terminator and then took him to see John?
Now that Good has been killed and he was the creator of the whole thing how will this change things for John?

Maybe she does something that is perceved as bad in this timeline but John knows that it is necessary for the future? Also, because of the time travel/paradox problem we could say that John doesn't know that Carmen goes bad because in his reality she wasn't sent back...this is why I usually shy away from time travel, there are too many possibilities.

[Starbuck]

Or maybe he is just going on about in his deluded stat at how they can go bad , and connecting her to it because she was involved in his finding out about that?

[Printsmudge]

A guess... There are BIG hint's they are going the route of BSG with the Robots.... Humanity.

ANd that is what the chip is about for now at least. Her facing her own mortality and having so brutaly killd her own kind.

What the chip may become I have no idea.

Oh, definitely. In the pilot (or maybe epi 2), Sarah referred to Cameron as "the Tin Man" from the Wizard of Oz. And what did the Tin Man want? A heart.

Since Cameron is apparently a different kind of Terminator, perhaps she has the capacity for some sort of morality or code of ethics as well ... and that may be what keeps her from becoming unredeemably bad.

PS. Michael Biehn was also Johnny Ringo in Tombstone. He and Val Kilmer (as Doc Holliday) stole the show. "I'm your huckleberry."

[Rowan]

Maybe she does something that is perceved as bad in this timeline but John knows that it is necessary for the future? Also, because of the time travel/paradox problem we could say that John doesn't know that Carmen goes bad because in his reality she wasn't sent back...this is why I usually shy away from time travel, there are too many possibilities.

Ah yes, I really had to let go of that even from the first movie LOL it was so trippy when I came out of the theater and tried to figure it all out LMAO!

[russant]

Bein was in a few of my favorites like Aliens and Navy Seals.

[Starbuck]

No I don't think she is particularly programed ... and there are other hint's... massive one's when Andy talks about the Turk and it's "moods" . Cameron's expression at a few key points in the ep before this one when dealing with her own mortality and the murder of her own kind.

[Rowan]

Or maybe he is just going on about in his deluded stat at how they can go bad , and connecting her to it because she was involved in his finding out about that?

I suppose but I think there must be more to it at least that is the impression I'm left with.

Because in the past we see her rescue him and we see him trust her enough to follow her to see John and then we see him time jump to the past. Where we see him call her a metal bitch just before she disarms him. But again he witnesses her rescue all of them then later after he's shot he's still upset with her and won't let her near him. This doesn't make any sense to me something is missing.
What we don't see or know about is the time he's lived from the moment he's arrived in the past to the moment the connors contact him. That's the time period I'm wondering about. This is where there must have been something that happened between him and her or him and a Terminator that is the same as her.

[Starbuck]

yes ... I was actually left with the impression that she did not remember him. That does support that something happed... something that led to her memories being scrubbed once again.

[herbsinger42]

Murder of her own... did she say that???
I hadn't picked it up... but I was tired.

Cameron did suggest that they could be re-programmed... and the concept of writing over a program with new stuff eliminating some of the old memory... possible.
What her ultimate program is.. as opposed to the "save John"single paradigm... to fight, instead of run... was that her target? Was that John's target? Is Cameron there to get him over/past/ through the death of Sarah?

I'm still wondering what of the Skynet programming she might be able to glean from the module...

[MrsDrJackson]

Demon's Hand talk

I was glad to see some religious metaphors starting to crop up. The movies had so much of that, it would have felt odd to not have something of it in the show too.

Cameron dancing for herself was both a thing of beauty and a bit creepy. Sarah said that if the machines were ever to learn art by themselves, they would be us. I don't think that would stop them from destroying the world...

Derek standing in the grass with bare feet, staring out at the not-destroyed world was a little heartbreaking, especially since we went from that to him asking about Kyle. Poor little boy misses his brother.

There is talk from the producers/writers etc about possibly/maybe having a second season!! *glee*

[Starbuck]

*pouts* I have not seen it yet.....

[DarthMarley]

Demon's Hand talk

I was glad to see some religious metaphors starting to crop up. The movies had so much of that, it would have felt odd to not have something of it in the show too.

Cameron dancing for herself was both a thing of beauty and a bit creepy. Sarah said that if the machines were ever to learn art by themselves, they would be us. I don't think that would stop them from destroying the world...

Derek standing in the grass with bare feet, staring out at the not-destroyed world was a little heartbreaking, especially since we went from that to him asking about Kyle. Poor little boy misses his brother.

There is talk from the producers/writers etc about possibly/maybe having a second season!! *glee*

That could mean that part of Cameron's mission is to humanize Skynet.

Where can I find the news of such 2nd season rumors?

[Max Bell]

I'm surprised to hear that this series sounds progressively even more obnoxious than when it debuted. I've read the same rumors, myself, and I hope for the sake of the series and those that enjoy it that the comparison is being unfairly made; being derivative would not be a good thing.

If not? Maybe Cavil and Skynet should go bowling and talk this through.

Incidentally? We now have 4,000 robots on the ground in Iraq.

And perhaps this particular item isn't so unrelated after all, since ultimately what's at issue is the development of robotics. While it's disapointing that they still look like ED 209 and Johnny 5, at least they don't look like Fanuc lazer turrets.

[Raycheetah]

I'm surprised to hear that this series sounds progressively even more obnoxious than when it debuted. I've read the same rumors, myself, and I hope for the sake of the series and those that enjoy it that the comparison is being unfairly made; being derivative would not be a good thing.

If not? Maybe Cavil and Skynet should go bowling and talk this through.

Incidentally? We now have 4,000 robots on the ground in Iraq.

And perhaps this particular item isn't so unrelated after all, since ultimately what's at issue is the development of robotics. While it's disapointing that they still look like ED 209 and Johnny 5, at least they don't look like Fanuc lazer turrets.

From the article:

" The use of such devices by terrorists should be a serious concern, said Sharkey.

Captured robots would not be difficult to reverse engineer, and could easily replace suicide bombers as the weapon-of-choice. "I don't know why that has not happened already," he said. "

Um, because, if folks saw a robot rolling into a marketplace in Baghdad, chances are, they'd figure out it wasn't there to buy fruit.

People are cheaper and less conspicuous... And, apparently, quite easy to program.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=